Comments on: The Honduran Coup: Was it a Matter of Behind-the-Scenes Finagling by State Department Stonewallers? http://www.coha.org/the-honduran-coup-was-it-a-matter-of-behind-the-scenes-finagling-by-state-department-stonewallers/ COHA is an NGO specialized in monitoring Latin American and Canadian Relations for more than 30 years... Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:22:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Speculative http://www.coha.org/the-honduran-coup-was-it-a-matter-of-behind-the-scenes-finagling-by-state-department-stonewallers/comment-page-1/#comment-33582 Speculative Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:31:38 +0000 http://www.coha.org/?p=6483#comment-33582 The problem with Fox News is that they often distort facts. Which facts are being distorted here? There is a big difference between distorting facts and making well informed speculations based on facts The problem with Fox News is that they often distort facts.

Which facts are being distorted here? There is a big difference between distorting facts and making well informed speculations based on facts

]]> By: rob fletcher http://www.coha.org/the-honduran-coup-was-it-a-matter-of-behind-the-scenes-finagling-by-state-department-stonewallers/comment-page-1/#comment-33376 rob fletcher Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:47:35 +0000 http://www.coha.org/?p=6483#comment-33376 just let's work towards freedom in this county so that their people can stay there or go back to their homeland...this would make them happy. just let's work towards freedom in this county so that their people can stay there or go back to their homeland…this would make them happy.

]]> By: Anticorruption http://www.coha.org/the-honduran-coup-was-it-a-matter-of-behind-the-scenes-finagling-by-state-department-stonewallers/comment-page-1/#comment-33325 Anticorruption Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:04:04 +0000 http://www.coha.org/?p=6483#comment-33325 Evidence? : "knowing that some or all of those funds would be passed on as bribes to officials of Hondutel, the Honduran state-owned telecommunications company" Good and necessary information, but hardly a smoking gun... Evidence? :

"knowing that some or all of those funds would be passed on as bribes to officials of Hondutel, the Honduran state-owned telecommunications company"

Good and necessary information, but hardly a smoking gun…

]]> By: Alberto Valiente http://www.coha.org/the-honduran-coup-was-it-a-matter-of-behind-the-scenes-finagling-by-state-department-stonewallers/comment-page-1/#comment-33324 Alberto Valiente Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:59:19 +0000 http://www.coha.org/?p=6483#comment-33324 The Honduran constitution does not open for removal from office. That is another myth that is spread to make this coup seem as a constitutional succession. There is an article stating that a president attempting reelection or to prolong a period will miss immunity, in the same way the constitution says that the right to life is respected. However, when people are accused of murder, they cannot be jailed without due process. The same goes for removing the president. The way it was done violated Honduran law, and this was admitted by the legal advisor to the Honduran military, Bayardo Inestroza in interviews with The Miami Herald and El Faro. According to him "they had to do it", to avoid a leftist from ruling in Honduras. As far as I know this article is not suggesting a "Great Man Theory" and neither was I when I wrote my comment above. I am rather suggesting a "respect the law and fundamental rights" theory, and make informed speculations about why the law and rights have been violated. The Honduran constitution does not open for removal from office. That is another myth that is spread to make this coup seem as a constitutional succession. There is an article stating that a president attempting reelection or to prolong a period will miss immunity, in the same way the constitution says that the right to life is respected. However, when people are accused of murder, they cannot be jailed without due process. The same goes for removing the president. The way it was done violated Honduran law, and this was admitted by the legal advisor to the Honduran military, Bayardo Inestroza in interviews with The Miami Herald and El Faro. According to him "they had to do it", to avoid a leftist from ruling in Honduras.

As far as I know this article is not suggesting a "Great Man Theory" and neither was I when I wrote my comment above. I am rather suggesting a "respect the law and fundamental rights" theory, and make informed speculations about why the law and rights have been violated.

]]> By: Sam Amsterdam http://www.coha.org/the-honduran-coup-was-it-a-matter-of-behind-the-scenes-finagling-by-state-department-stonewallers/comment-page-1/#comment-33179 Sam Amsterdam Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:15:45 +0000 http://www.coha.org/?p=6483#comment-33179 The Wall Street Journal's author of the America's column, Mary Anastasia O'Grady, has recently published an article in which she agrees with the stance of the Arcadia Foundation; that what transpired in Honduras wasn't a coup at all, but was in fact a leader who was deposed lawfully for violating the Honduran Constitution. The Wall Street Journal's version of events include facts left out in most other reporting, now backed up by the Congressional Research Service (CRS). "... a report filed at the Library of Congress by the Congressional Research Service (CRS) provides what the administration has not offered, a serious legal review of the facts. 'Available sources indicate that the judicial and legislative branches applied constitutional and statutory law in the case against President Zelaya in a manner that was judged by the Honduran authorities from both branches of the government to be in accordance with the Honduran legal system,' writes CRS senior foreign law specialist Norma C. Gutierrez in her report." All of the evidence to date clearly shows that the country of Honduras did the right thing both legally and morally. The actions of the Hondurans, the orderly transition to a new civilian leader (from the same political party as the ousted President) protected their constitution. The Wall Street Journal's author of the America's column, Mary Anastasia O'Grady, has recently published an article in which she agrees with the stance of the Arcadia Foundation; that what transpired in Honduras wasn't a coup at all, but was in fact a leader who was deposed lawfully for violating the Honduran Constitution. The Wall Street Journal's version of events include facts left out in most other reporting, now backed up by the Congressional Research Service (CRS).

"… a report filed at the Library of Congress by the Congressional Research Service (CRS) provides what the administration has not offered, a serious legal review of the facts. 'Available sources indicate that the judicial and legislative branches applied constitutional and statutory law in the case against President Zelaya in a manner that was judged by the Honduran authorities from both branches of the government to be in accordance with the Honduran legal system,' writes CRS senior foreign law specialist Norma C. Gutierrez in her report."

All of the evidence to date clearly shows that the country of Honduras did the right thing both legally and morally. The actions of the Hondurans, the orderly transition to a new civilian leader (from the same political party as the ousted President) protected their constitution.

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