Comments on: Letter to the President: Honduras Human Rights Violations and Elections http://www.coha.org/letter-to-the-president-honduras-human-rights-violations-and-elections/ COHA is an NGO specialized in monitoring Latin American and Canadian Relations for more than 30 years... Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:22:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: San Marcos de Colon http://www.coha.org/letter-to-the-president-honduras-human-rights-violations-and-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-34740 San Marcos de Colon Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:54:14 +0000 http://www.coha.org/?p=7068#comment-34740 It seems that many of you believes that the Honduras (the second poorest country in LA with the highest degree of criminality in Centra 'America and the second largest undernurished and illiterate population in Latin America) needs at this time rule by the military in partnership with an empresarial oligarchy and corrupted political parties. For me it is hard to see a poverty stricken country utilized as the only US ally in the area to contain progressive governents in Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua (I am leaving Costa Rica out) . The cost of to the Honduran people will be too much to bear. It is not going to be easy for the USA/Golpistas to maintain control of Honduras since the events of the 28 of June created an organized Resistencia that will not go away. I am not betting on these horses....! It seems that many of you believes that the Honduras (the second poorest country in LA with the highest degree of criminality in Centra 'America and the second largest undernurished and illiterate population in Latin America) needs at this time rule by the military in partnership with an empresarial oligarchy and corrupted political parties. For me it is hard to see a poverty stricken country utilized as the only US ally in the area to contain progressive governents in Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua (I am leaving Costa Rica out) . The cost of to the Honduran people will be too much to bear. It is not going to be easy for the USA/Golpistas to maintain control of Honduras since the events of the 28 of June created an organized Resistencia that will not go away. I am not betting on these horses….!

]]> By: El Cid http://www.coha.org/letter-to-the-president-honduras-human-rights-violations-and-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-34710 El Cid Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:38:04 +0000 http://www.coha.org/?p=7068#comment-34710 By the way, you still haven't even outlined how Zelaya was going to extend his term. The referendum he proposed suggested a Constitutional Assembly to consider the reform of the Constitution. It said nothing about term limits. Had it been voted on in the cuarta urna, it would have had no effect until long after Zelaya had left office. But I see that you like the situation where those with guns call the shots, so please don't be complaining here if the Honduran destabilizes, because this is clearly what you wanted -- a bunch of leftover 1980s death squad morons in charge of Honduras. Good luck with that! By the way, you still haven't even outlined how Zelaya was going to extend his term.

The referendum he proposed suggested a Constitutional Assembly to consider the reform of the Constitution. It said nothing about term limits. Had it been voted on in the cuarta urna, it would have had no effect until long after Zelaya had left office.

But I see that you like the situation where those with guns call the shots, so please don't be complaining here if the Honduran destabilizes, because this is clearly what you wanted — a bunch of leftover 1980s death squad morons in charge of Honduras. Good luck with that!

]]> By: El Cid http://www.coha.org/letter-to-the-president-honduras-human-rights-violations-and-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-34709 El Cid Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:33:38 +0000 http://www.coha.org/?p=7068#comment-34709 Okay, so, no legal process of either trial and conviction or succession was followed, but this is great and democratic because you like the result and Washington seems to let the idiot death squad military call the shots. Okay. Great point made. A true victory for democracy. Yay! Okay, so, no legal process of either trial and conviction or succession was followed, but this is great and democratic because you like the result and Washington seems to let the idiot death squad military call the shots. Okay. Great point made. A true victory for democracy. Yay!

]]> By: ElJefe http://www.coha.org/letter-to-the-president-honduras-human-rights-violations-and-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-34708 ElJefe Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:22:19 +0000 http://www.coha.org/?p=7068#comment-34708 Well, then you obviously hadn't been following Honduran politics. The Honduran VP quit in disgust back in 2007, Roberto Micheletti was next in succession as president of Congress. And in Honduran politics, nobody moves against the caudillo because they're too scared, this includes Congress and the courts. They would've never protected the democratic system as long as Zelaya was in power. Therefore, force really was the only way. And yes, whatever the funders and commanders in Washington say is the law. Well, then you obviously hadn't been following Honduran politics. The Honduran VP quit in disgust back in 2007, Roberto Micheletti was next in succession as president of Congress. And in Honduran politics, nobody moves against the caudillo because they're too scared, this includes Congress and the courts. They would've never protected the democratic system as long as Zelaya was in power. Therefore, force really was the only way. And yes, whatever the funders and commanders in Washington say is the law.

]]> By: El Cid http://www.coha.org/letter-to-the-president-honduras-human-rights-violations-and-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-34707 El Cid Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:49:46 +0000 http://www.coha.org/?p=7068#comment-34707 The Honduran Constitution holds that a public leader may be charged with a crime, arrested, and tried. If convicted in a court of law (an actual trial, not a court pronouncement), then his citizenship would have been removed and thus he would no longer have legally qualified for his office. At that point his appointed vice president in the legal line of succession would take office. There is no other legal procedure to remove an elected President. This includes claims of "Article 239" which was not cited by the courts. There too, charges and a trial and conviction would be required. I mean, if you're going to claim that the Honduran death squad military gets to do whatever it wants as long as its long time funders and commanders, the US government, allows them, well, maybe you're correct. The Honduran Constitution holds that a public leader may be charged with a crime, arrested, and tried. If convicted in a court of law (an actual trial, not a court pronouncement), then his citizenship would have been removed and thus he would no longer have legally qualified for his office. At that point his appointed vice president in the legal line of succession would take office.

There is no other legal procedure to remove an elected President. This includes claims of "Article 239" which was not cited by the courts. There too, charges and a trial and conviction would be required.

I mean, if you're going to claim that the Honduran death squad military gets to do whatever it wants as long as its long time funders and commanders, the US government, allows them, well, maybe you're correct.

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