Comments on: Cunning Micheletti Determined to Outfox Zelaya, Insouciant U.S. Diplomats; Meanwhile, Clinton Delivers a Likely Fatal Blow to Ousted Honduran President Zelaya’s Already Grim Prospects http://www.coha.org/cunning-micheletti-determined-to-outfox-zelaya-insouciant-u-s-diplomats-meanwhile-clinton-delivers-a-likely-fatal-blow-to-ousted-honduran-president-zelaya%e2%80%99s-already-grim-prospects/ COHA is an NGO specialized in monitoring Latin American and Canadian Relations for more than 30 years... Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:22:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Sick of Haters http://www.coha.org/cunning-micheletti-determined-to-outfox-zelaya-insouciant-u-s-diplomats-meanwhile-clinton-delivers-a-likely-fatal-blow-to-ousted-honduran-president-zelaya%e2%80%99s-already-grim-prospects/comment-page-1/#comment-34866 Sick of Haters Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:26:53 +0000 http://www.coha.org/?p=7056#comment-34866 Why can't people post comments without being so negative, nasty and hateful. BTW Jefe, you would think democracy-more than US interests- should be a priority. Why can't people post comments without being so negative, nasty and hateful. BTW Jefe, you would think democracy-more than US interests- should be a priority.

]]> By: Lor http://www.coha.org/cunning-micheletti-determined-to-outfox-zelaya-insouciant-u-s-diplomats-meanwhile-clinton-delivers-a-likely-fatal-blow-to-ousted-honduran-president-zelaya%e2%80%99s-already-grim-prospects/comment-page-1/#comment-34702 Lor Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:56:49 +0000 http://www.coha.org/?p=7056#comment-34702 Then again, we had a really violent and assassin change of power from a democratically elected president to a de facto dictator whose army has killed and wounded many peaceful hondurans protesting, who has repressed many demonstrations, who has forbidden freedom of speech and closed down our media and is still interfering it and sabotaging it. If anyone thinks this is better than a hypothetical claim of someone wanting to "circumvent an electorate", a charge, which FYI WAS NOT amongst the charges the Congress lifted against Zelaya (just to show the ignorance of many people here who post about Honduras and have NO IDEA about my country and who these people are, so self-righteously, these conservative, retrograde, barbaric minds who still live in the cold war), I think you are "trying to cover up the sun with a finger". This is a signal to the rest of Latin America that violent changes in power are coming up. Fernando Lugo and Ortega are facing dangers and threats of a coup d'état. They are going to make a fascist party out of our America again, like in their good old days. Then again, we had a really violent and assassin change of power from a democratically elected president to a de facto dictator whose army has killed and wounded many peaceful hondurans protesting, who has repressed many demonstrations, who has forbidden freedom of speech and closed down our media and is still interfering it and sabotaging it. If anyone thinks this is better than a hypothetical claim of someone wanting to "circumvent an electorate", a charge, which FYI WAS NOT amongst the charges the Congress lifted against Zelaya (just to show the ignorance of many people here who post about Honduras and have NO IDEA about my country and who these people are, so self-righteously, these conservative, retrograde, barbaric minds who still live in the cold war), I think you are "trying to cover up the sun with a finger". This is a signal to the rest of Latin America that violent changes in power are coming up. Fernando Lugo and Ortega are facing dangers and threats of a coup d'état. They are going to make a fascist party out of our America again, like in their good old days.

]]> By: ajk http://www.coha.org/cunning-micheletti-determined-to-outfox-zelaya-insouciant-u-s-diplomats-meanwhile-clinton-delivers-a-likely-fatal-blow-to-ousted-honduran-president-zelaya%e2%80%99s-already-grim-prospects/comment-page-1/#comment-34603 ajk Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:59:58 +0000 http://www.coha.org/?p=7056#comment-34603 In electing the Obama team the US does indeed get change, as does Latin America. Change in that there are no accusations that the US was behind the Honduran crisis. The fact that Zelaya might be returned to power as little more than figure head for a brief span, still signals the rest of Latin America that even non violent changes in power (circumventing an electorate) will not be tolerated. Thats's victory enough, hopefully it will come to fruition. In electing the Obama team the US does indeed get change, as does Latin America. Change in that there are no accusations that the US was behind the Honduran crisis. The fact that Zelaya might be returned to power as little more than figure head for a brief span, still signals the rest of Latin America that even non violent changes in power (circumventing an electorate) will not be tolerated. Thats's victory enough, hopefully it will come to fruition.

]]> By: Manticore http://www.coha.org/cunning-micheletti-determined-to-outfox-zelaya-insouciant-u-s-diplomats-meanwhile-clinton-delivers-a-likely-fatal-blow-to-ousted-honduran-president-zelaya%e2%80%99s-already-grim-prospects/comment-page-1/#comment-34596 Manticore Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:48:34 +0000 http://www.coha.org/?p=7056#comment-34596 The whole matter is so laughable that we, latinamericans, let it happen not because there is nothing to do against massive show of force, but because allowing this blunder to happen is a short cut to a swifter undoing. Finally, there are those who see in these US actions a geopolitical strategy to maintain Honduras, as well as Colombia, a last ditch effort to secure what is left of a dying empire. But again, it surelly is the slow undoing of this most abhorent foreing policy towards a continent which will not remain without exacting a price in due time. It's just wait and see. The whole matter is so laughable that we, latinamericans, let it happen not because there is nothing to do against massive show of force, but because allowing this blunder to happen is a short cut to a swifter undoing.

Finally, there are those who see in these US actions a geopolitical strategy to maintain Honduras, as well as Colombia, a last ditch effort to secure what is left of a dying empire. But again, it surelly is the slow undoing of this most abhorent foreing policy towards a continent which will not remain without exacting a price in due time. It's just wait and see.

]]> By: Manticore http://www.coha.org/cunning-micheletti-determined-to-outfox-zelaya-insouciant-u-s-diplomats-meanwhile-clinton-delivers-a-likely-fatal-blow-to-ousted-honduran-president-zelaya%e2%80%99s-already-grim-prospects/comment-page-1/#comment-34595 Manticore Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:47:30 +0000 http://www.coha.org/?p=7056#comment-34595 There is yet another dimension to US "non-intervention". That same "non-intervention" everybody actually sees, but because at some level it is better to say nothing and pretending to go along with the propaganda machine of the Pentagon avoids a worse outcome, everybody knows the extent of US early support to the coup and its mentoring during the whole process. Just as well everybody knows of the desire of the US to have Zelaya's power fade away with the legitimacy of his presidency at the end of his term. But those who allow hind sight to prevail, against the mask of pseudo-sanctions and Obama's supposed noncommital to clear interest in manintaining Honduras enslaved, know full well is a sure sign of bad policy and lousy intervention in a continent which is sliding whole out of US influence. Worse yet, the US acts as if there is nothing unusual happening and no one keeping tabs. Besides, the US wills itself not to see the unanimiy at the OAS, and waves it away with a flick of the wrist as if it will disappear by magic. There is yet another dimension to US "non-intervention". That same "non-intervention" everybody actually sees, but because at some level it is better to say nothing and pretending to go along with the propaganda machine of the Pentagon avoids a worse outcome, everybody knows the extent of US early support to the coup and its mentoring during the whole process. Just as well everybody knows of the desire of the US to have Zelaya's power fade away with the legitimacy of his presidency at the end of his term. But those who allow hind sight to prevail, against the mask of pseudo-sanctions and Obama's supposed noncommital to clear interest in manintaining Honduras enslaved, know full well is a sure sign of bad policy and lousy intervention in a continent which is sliding whole out of US influence. Worse yet, the US acts as if there is nothing unusual happening and no one keeping tabs. Besides, the US wills itself not to see the unanimiy at the OAS, and waves it away with a flick of the wrist as if it will disappear by magic.

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