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		<title>By: Kenneth</title>
		<link>http://www.coha.org/cuba-votes-as-fidel-castro-steps-down/comment-page-1/#comment-39716</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>solid, in-depth analysis of Cuba&#039;s electoral system. Cuba&#039;s system may not need improvements but to say that its not democratic from a US standpoint is contradictory given the US&#039; authoritarian and undemocratic policies in Latin America, Africa, and East Asia. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>solid, in-depth analysis of Cuba&#039;s electoral system. Cuba&#039;s system may not need improvements but to say that its not democratic from a US standpoint is contradictory given the US&#039; authoritarian and undemocratic policies in Latin America, Africa, and East Asia.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Kenney</title>
		<link>http://www.coha.org/cuba-votes-as-fidel-castro-steps-down/comment-page-1/#comment-7372</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Kenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Modern political democracy has two essential features: competitive elections and full adult suffrage.  No country lacking either of these two features is a democracy. Cuba, which lacks competitive elections, is not a democracy.

In order for the two features listed above to be really present, political scientists generally agree that six things have to be true of a polity: 

1. Elected officials govern.
2. These must be chosen in free and fair elections.
3. Rights of citizenship, including the right to run for office and the right to vote, must be broadly inclusive.
4. There must be broad freedom of the press.
5. Citizens must have the right to access alternative sources of information, and such sources must exist.
6. There must be broad freedom to organize autonomously from the state.  This is especially important with respect to the right to organize politically in movements and political parties for the purpose of contesting power.

Which of these are true of Cuba?  From your report, it is evident that only the first condition is met in Cuba today.  
* Elections are not free and fair--they are not even competitive elections at all.  
* The right to run for office is limited to those approved by incumbent officials after meeting ideological and other tests.  
* There is no freedom of the press.
* There is no right to access alternative sources of information.
* There is no right to organize politically.

To suggest that there is democracy in Cuba today is intellectually irresponsible.

Where democracy exists in the world, it is invariably flawed.  To suggest that because democracy is flawed in the United States (or Canada, Brazil, Venezuela, Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, Argentina, Chile, etc.), this puts these polities on equal footing with the complete absence of political democracy in Cuba is a fallacy of the first order.

This article wrests credibility from the COHA, reflecting very poorly on the ability of your organization to provide useful analysis of hemispheric affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modern political democracy has two essential features: competitive elections and full adult suffrage.  No country lacking either of these two features is a democracy. Cuba, which lacks competitive elections, is not a democracy.</p>
<p>In order for the two features listed above to be really present, political scientists generally agree that six things have to be true of a polity: </p>
<p>1. Elected officials govern.<br />
2. These must be chosen in free and fair elections.<br />
3. Rights of citizenship, including the right to run for office and the right to vote, must be broadly inclusive.<br />
4. There must be broad freedom of the press.<br />
5. Citizens must have the right to access alternative sources of information, and such sources must exist.<br />
6. There must be broad freedom to organize autonomously from the state.  This is especially important with respect to the right to organize politically in movements and political parties for the purpose of contesting power.</p>
<p>Which of these are true of Cuba?  From your report, it is evident that only the first condition is met in Cuba today.<br />
* Elections are not free and fair&#8211;they are not even competitive elections at all.<br />
* The right to run for office is limited to those approved by incumbent officials after meeting ideological and other tests.<br />
* There is no freedom of the press.<br />
* There is no right to access alternative sources of information.<br />
* There is no right to organize politically.</p>
<p>To suggest that there is democracy in Cuba today is intellectually irresponsible.</p>
<p>Where democracy exists in the world, it is invariably flawed.  To suggest that because democracy is flawed in the United States (or Canada, Brazil, Venezuela, Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, Argentina, Chile, etc.), this puts these polities on equal footing with the complete absence of political democracy in Cuba is a fallacy of the first order.</p>
<p>This article wrests credibility from the COHA, reflecting very poorly on the ability of your organization to provide useful analysis of hemispheric affairs.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo Sapiains Lagos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo Sapiains Lagos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty good analysis; if only we had something similar in the UK. The bizarre thing in Britain is that Cuba is hardly ever in news, yet when something of major importance occurs (such as Castro&#039;s resignation) there is a knee-jerk reaction manifesting itself in a virulent strain of anti-Castro rhetoric. Even supposedly impartial respected news agencies, such as the BBC, seem to have succumbed to this temptation. Which is not to say that you can&#039;t criticise the Cuban regime, but do so in an intelligent manner and not as the propaganda mouthpiece for other interests. Ditto Venezuela.

Keep up the good work guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty good analysis; if only we had something similar in the UK. The bizarre thing in Britain is that Cuba is hardly ever in news, yet when something of major importance occurs (such as Castro&#8217;s resignation) there is a knee-jerk reaction manifesting itself in a virulent strain of anti-Castro rhetoric. Even supposedly impartial respected news agencies, such as the BBC, seem to have succumbed to this temptation. Which is not to say that you can&#8217;t criticise the Cuban regime, but do so in an intelligent manner and not as the propaganda mouthpiece for other interests. Ditto Venezuela.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.coha.org/cuba-votes-as-fidel-castro-steps-down/comment-page-1/#comment-7251</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US democracy is flawed, with the norm being that wealthy interests are the gate keepers of who gets to run at the higher levels and the corporate media as the filters that determine who gets heard.

Cuba has a more systematically rigged nominating system than that, plus a far more profound lack of choice, plus a far more stringent control on information.

The US and Cuban electoral systems are not &quot;equally troubled.&quot; Cuba is farther from full political democracy.

This is not to say that the US system should be imported into Cuba or that the Miami exiles should be allowed to participate in Cuba&#039;s decisions about which way to go. The obvious ways to go are to have direct, contested elections at all levels, under conditions that at a minimum require the freeing of political prisoners, the legalization of independent media, an open nominating process and time for people to assimilate and prepare for these changes so that different factions of society can organize and a reasonable transition can happen in case a group other than the presently ruling one wins.

I could see the Communist Party losing a fair and open election, but I doubt they&#039;d get wiped off the map. I also doubt that anybody running on a &quot;bring back the Miami exiles to take over their parents&#039; and grandparents&#039; property and privileges&quot; platform would do well.

Just a few profound reforms, leaving Cuba with something like its present framework of non-partisan elections, might allow Cuba to all of a sudden be far more democratic than the United States. But of course, if they tried to move quickly in that direction while George W. Bush was still president of the United States the Cubans would be under tremendous undemocratic manipulative pressures. Maybe Dubya&#039;s successor would be more hands-off, maybe not.

Progressive people ought to defend Cuba&#039;s sovereignty against Washington&#039;s would-be impositions, but that&#039;s not the same thing as pretending that Cuba is a democracy that respects all of the internationally recognized fundamental freedoms. It isn&#039;t and it doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US democracy is flawed, with the norm being that wealthy interests are the gate keepers of who gets to run at the higher levels and the corporate media as the filters that determine who gets heard.</p>
<p>Cuba has a more systematically rigged nominating system than that, plus a far more profound lack of choice, plus a far more stringent control on information.</p>
<p>The US and Cuban electoral systems are not &#8220;equally troubled.&#8221; Cuba is farther from full political democracy.</p>
<p>This is not to say that the US system should be imported into Cuba or that the Miami exiles should be allowed to participate in Cuba&#8217;s decisions about which way to go. The obvious ways to go are to have direct, contested elections at all levels, under conditions that at a minimum require the freeing of political prisoners, the legalization of independent media, an open nominating process and time for people to assimilate and prepare for these changes so that different factions of society can organize and a reasonable transition can happen in case a group other than the presently ruling one wins.</p>
<p>I could see the Communist Party losing a fair and open election, but I doubt they&#8217;d get wiped off the map. I also doubt that anybody running on a &#8220;bring back the Miami exiles to take over their parents&#8217; and grandparents&#8217; property and privileges&#8221; platform would do well.</p>
<p>Just a few profound reforms, leaving Cuba with something like its present framework of non-partisan elections, might allow Cuba to all of a sudden be far more democratic than the United States. But of course, if they tried to move quickly in that direction while George W. Bush was still president of the United States the Cubans would be under tremendous undemocratic manipulative pressures. Maybe Dubya&#8217;s successor would be more hands-off, maybe not.</p>
<p>Progressive people ought to defend Cuba&#8217;s sovereignty against Washington&#8217;s would-be impositions, but that&#8217;s not the same thing as pretending that Cuba is a democracy that respects all of the internationally recognized fundamental freedoms. It isn&#8217;t and it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: TTJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TTJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the U.S. should pressure countries such as Saudi Arabia, Jordan and U.A.E to implement free elections. But to say &quot;Most Cubans trust the Cuban Communist Party to guide the nation toward economic prosperity and ideological purity,&quot; is absurd because they have no other choice. Worse, if they choose not to vote they are subject to fines. Until there is a guarantee of a multi-party system in Cuba, there will not be fair or democratic elections there. End of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the U.S. should pressure countries such as Saudi Arabia, Jordan and U.A.E to implement free elections. But to say &#8220;Most Cubans trust the Cuban Communist Party to guide the nation toward economic prosperity and ideological purity,&#8221; is absurd because they have no other choice. Worse, if they choose not to vote they are subject to fines. Until there is a guarantee of a multi-party system in Cuba, there will not be fair or democratic elections there. End of story.</p>
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